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    <description><![CDATA[Sidetrekked is your unofficial agency of record. Emilee Christianson, Shayne Terry, and a rotating cast of Trekkies are here to advise on your B2B marketing strategy. Trekk is a full-service marketing agency, which means we do it all... and we’ve been around since 1995, which means we’ve seen it all. 

Here on the podcast, we tackle our clients’ biggest marketing challenges. We reveal what’s worked for us and dig into real-life case studies and practical strategies you can put to work tomorrow. Curious? You've come to the right place.]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[Learn the key differences between AEO and SEO, how to adapt your SEO strategy for AEO, why a marketing strategy sent straight from Claude Cowork isn’t effective, and how to network at large in-person events on this episode of Sidetrekked.

Sidetrekked is a B2B marketing podcast by Trekk, a tech-driven full-service creative agency based in Rockford, Illinois, where CEO Emilee Christianson and COO Shayne break down today’s biggest marketing challenges.

This Season 3 finale AMA answers a few key marketing questions:
AEO is pretty much the same as SEO, right?
AEO targets AI mentions and citations.
AEO prefers structured content with a direct question and immediate answer.
Use the HubSpot AEO tool to see how you’re performing.
If I keep doing the same SEO things that I’m currently doing, will I show up in AI answer engines?
This is dependent on content quality.
Check AI visibility of current content.
Know how you’re appearing so you’re not misrepresented.
https://trekk.com/insights/what-are-ai-answer-engines-saying-about-your-brand-and-how-can-you-influence-them 
Can I just give you my marketing strategy from Claude Cowork?
If we just get an output from an LLM, you’re cutting the agency out of the conversation and they cannot see the context.
Comes at a cost of collaboration, new ideas, and critical thinking in content strategy.
Make sure your settings are personalized for ideal outputs.
You’ve talked about in-person events. What’s the best way to meet and talk to people at a big event with thousands of people?
Go with the mentality, “I’m here to make friends.”
Go to free sessions, educational booths, and demos.
Get curious and stop and ask questions at booths.

Find the answer to the final AMA question on Trekk’s LinkedIn.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/trekk/ 

Keep up with Trekk and marketing news:
https://trekk.com/
https://www.instagram.com/trekkdesign/ 
https://trekk.com/insights 
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      <description><![CDATA[Nick Grobe, Senior Motion Designer and Sidetrekked Producer, joins the conversation on this common piece of writing advice to explain how it can be applied to marketing as well. Capture your audience’s attention and convince them to tumble down the rabbit hole of your brand story with engaging video (3:45). Learn about the benefits of motion graphics (because you can’t exactly put a camera inside an engine) (9:45). Later on, Nick explains how those “cell-phone” social media videos that you can’t stop watching—think a hydraulic press squishing a candle and an influencer unboxing twelve different kinds of lip gloss—are actually examples of how high-quality videography and editing is the key to success (17:00). In Problem Solved, Nick and Emilee tell Shayne about a particularly rainy video shoot that led to some great brand storytelling. As always, our episode ends with Mics at the Bar.]]></description>
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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
https://trekk.com/insights/should-i-hire-an-in-house-crm-administrator
https://trekk.com/insights/ai-seo

Website: trekk.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trekk/
Instagram: @TrekkDesign]]></description>
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Website: https://www.trekk.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trekk/
Instagram: @TrekkDesign]]></description>
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Website: trekk.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trekk/
Instagram: @TrekkDesign

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

https://trekk.com/insights/what-these-high-performing-b2b-blogs-get-right]]></description>
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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
https://trekk.com/insights/inside-inbound-2025-what-marketers-need-to-know-about-hubspots-new-products-and-features]]></description>
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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
https://trekk.com/insights/how-b2b-companies-boost-trust-and-engagement-with-interview-style-marketing-videos
https://trekk.com/insights/how-level-your-social-media-strategy-2025
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Resources: 
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/creating-helpful-content 
https://www.catherinelacey.com/]]></description>
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Resources: 
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/small-business/direct-mail-statistics
https://sg360.com/study-highlights-direct-mails-ability-to-convert-abandoned-carts/
https://trekk.com/work/demonstrating-power-personalized-digital-print
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Additional resources:
Perplexity: perplexity.ai
Chat GPT: openai.com/index/chatgpt]]></description>
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Resources: 
https://trekk.com/insights/think-old-school-3-classic-marketing-channels-should-be-part-every-brand-loyalty-strategy
https://trekk.com/insights/craft-lead-nurturing-program-works
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Resources: 
https://trekk.com/insights/why-your-email-open-rates-are-going-down-and-what-to-do-about-it 
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